I got myself a new 27″ 4K screen to my work setup, a Dell P2715Q, and replaced one of my old trusty twenty-four inch friends with it.
I now work with the “Thinkpad 13″ on the left as my video conference machine (it does nothing else and it runs Windows!), the two mid screens are a 24″ and the new 27” and they are connected to my primary dev machine while the rightmost thing is my laptop for when I need to move.
Did everything run smoothly? Heck no.
When I first inserted the 4K screen without modifying anything else in the setup, it was immediately obvious that I really needed to upgrade my graphics card since it didn’t have muscles enough to drive the screen at 4K so the screen would then instead upscale a 1920×1200 image in a slightly blurry fashion. I couldn’t have that!
New graphics card
So when I was out and about later that day I more or less accidentally passed a Webhallen store, and I got myself a new card. I wanted to play it easy so I stayed with an AMD processor and went with ASUS Dual-Rx460-O2G. The key feature I wanted was to be able to drive one 4K screen and one at 1920×1200, and then I unfortunately had to give up on the ones with only passive cooling and I instead had to pick what sounds like a gaming card. (I hate shopping graphics cards.)As I was about to do surgery on the machine anyway. I checked and noticed that I could add more memory to the motherboard so I bought 16 more GB to a total of 32GB.
Blow some fuses
Later that night, when the house was quiet and dark I shut down my machine, inserted the new card, the new memory DIMMs and powered it back up again.
At least that was the plan. When I fired it back on, it said clock and my lamps around me all got dark and the machine didn’t light up at all. The fuse was blown! Man, wasn’t that totally unexpected?
I did some further research on what exactly caused the fuse to blow and blew a few more in the process, as I finally restored the former card and removed the memory DIMMs again and it still blew the fuse. Puzzled and slightly disappointed I went to bed when I had no more spare fuses.
I hate leaving the machine dead in parts on the floor with an uncertain future, but what could I do?
A new PSU
Tuesday morning I went to get myself a PSU replacement (Plexgear PS-600 Bronze), and once I had that installed no more fuses blew and I could start the machine again!
I put the new memory back in and I could get into the BIOS config with both screens working with the new card (and it detected 32GB ram just fine). But as soon as I tried to boot Linux, the boot process halted after just 3-4 seconds and seemingly just froze. Hm, I tested a few different kernels and safety mode etc but they all acted like that. Weird!
A little googling on the messages that appeared just before it froze gave me the idea that maybe I should see if there’s an update for my bios available. After all, I’ve never upgraded it and it was a while since I got my motherboard (more than 4 years).
I found a much updated bios image on ASUS support site, put it on a FAT-formatted USB-drive and I upgraded.
Now it booted. Of course the error messages I had googled for are still present, and I suppose they were there before too, I just hadn’t put any attention to them when everything was working dandy!
Displayport vs HDMI
I had the wrong idea that I should use the display port to get 4K working, but it just wouldn’t work. DP + DVI just showed up on one screen and I even went as far as trying to download some Ubuntu Linux driver package for Radeon RX460 that I found, but of course it failed miserably due to my Debian Unstable having a totally different kernel running and what not.
In a slightly desperate move (I had now wasted quite a few hours on this and my machine still wasn’t working), I put back the old graphics card – (with DVI + hdmi) only to note that it no longer works like it did (the DVI one didn’t find the correct resolution anymore). Presumably the BIOS upgrade or something shook the balance?
Back on the new card I booted with DVI + HDMI, leaving DP entirely, and now suddenly both screens worked!
HiDPI + LoDPI
Once I had logged in, I could configure the 4K screen to show at its full 3840×2160 resolution glory. I was back.
Now I only had to start fiddling with getting the two screens to somehow co-exist next to each other, which is a challenge in its own. The large difference in DPI makes it hard to have one config that works across both screens. Like I usually have terminals on both screens – which font size should I use? And I put browser windows on both screens…
So far I’ve settled with increasing the font DPI in KDE and I use two different terminal profiles depending on which screen I put the terminal on. Seems to work okayish. Some texts on the 4K screen are still terribly small, so I guess it is good that I still have good eye sight!
24 + 27
So is it comfortable to combine a 24″ with a 27″ ? Sure, the size difference really isn’t that notable. The 27 one is really just a few centimeters taller and the differences in width isn’t an inconvenience. The photo below shows how similar they look, size-wise:
8 thoughts on “New screen and new fuses”
> the screen would then instead upscale a 1920×1200 image in a slightly blurry fashion
This is what is stopping me from taking the plunge and getting a 4K monitor (or two) – even though 1920×1080 and 1280×720 content should scale perfectly on a 3840×2160 pixel panel (2x and 3x the number of pixels, respectively), neither AMD nor NVIDIA have options in their drivers to allow simple nearest-neighbour scaling. Some sort of filtering is invariably applied. Seemingly no monitor manufacturer has a scaler that does this, either.
There are forum threads for AMD and NVIDIA requesting this feature here:
It’s really weird you couldn’t get DisplayPort to work. Might want to try with another machine (preferably Windows box) to make sure your cable, monitor port, or video card ports aren’t dead.
Well, I suppose I could, but I really don’t care enough to bother with that. I don’t even have any windows machines to try the DP port with…
You need DP to run 4K @ 60 Hz. With HDMI you’re running at 30 Hz.
Shouldn’t be a problem to get it working with a kernel that’s updated. Won’t work on an old kernel of course.
Ah, thanks @Ernst and good point… that’s indeed a reason for me to go back and try again with DP. I do run a fairly recent kernel (4.9.6 at this moment)
I did a similar thing. Went from dual Dell 2007FP’s + Radeon HD6870 to dual LG 27UD58 + RX 470 (primarily because of 3x DP).
I originally tried to upgrade slowly, bough the RX 470 on sale and the LG 27UD58 and wanted to use my 2007FPs, but the HiDPI an LoDPI issue was tooo intense for me. I had to cave and ditches the 2007FPs and bought the second 27UD58 as they match and the HiDPI is easier to deal with then the combo.
I have one old 2007FP sitting on my desk hoping to use my integrated Intel GPU + Pass through to drive it and run windows natively… but no time!
Great blog post! Which keyboard are you using? it looks like mechanical one, if so – which switches?
Yosi: yeps, it is a Func KB-460 mechanical keyboard with Cherry MX Red switches. I blogged about it two years ago. I’m quite fond of it!
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