On June 26th 2017, Daniel was denied to travel to the US - while still having a valid ESTA and passport. He was then denied ESTA on April 3, 2018. When subsequently applying for a visa instead, there has been no response for over two years. (To visit, not to apply for permanent residency.)
This page was edited with new content on: November 9, 2020
First blog post: Administrative purgatory
The one year anniversary: One year in still no visa.
937 days since my application, I have a visa in my passport. Valid for 10 years.
As an unexpected bonus, there's also a 30 days "NIE" (National Interest Exception) that allows me a single entry to the US during "PP" (Presidential Proclamations) - which is restricting travels to the US from the European Schengen zone.
934 days into the process (10:30 November 6, 2020) I received this text on my phone, saying there's a parcel sent to me from "the Embassy of the United State".
On October 13, 2020 (910 days in), the embassy emailed me again, asking me to "Please send in your passport for further processing."
On October 16, I mailed it to the embassy.
On September 22, 2020 (889 days in), the US Embassy emailed me, and I will quote verbatim from the email below.
Dear Sir, Your visa application is still in administrative processing. However, we regret to inform you that because you have missed your travel plans, we will require updated travel plans from you. If you intend to proceed with your visa application, we therefore ask you to kindly send your updated travel plans, including any relevant supporting documents (such as an official invitation letter and financial support letter/other financial supporting documents). Thank you.
So I need to provide updated plans and "invitation letters"...
It seems reasonable to suspect that the embassy woke up and realized this after having being prodded by the congressman's email a few days ago. The travel plans have been outdated for the last 800 days or so and they only email to ask this now?
On October 2, 220 (898 days in) I responded to the email with an invitation letter with an offer to visit my colleagues at wolfSSL in the US at two different future dates (one in December 2020, one in March 2021) and "All expenses, hotel, airfare, transportation and food will be paid for him". Signed by Larry Stefonic, CEO of wolfSSL.
No. They've just informed me "someone is working on it" and that it "may take a long time" but without qualifying what that means. They call it "administrative processing."
I have talked to several persons who've experienced similar situations, and I have learned about waiting times up to 20 months until a definite "no". I used to think of that as a sort of "worst case" waiting time. Now we know it can take longer...
I already did and they denied me that. See one of the images below.
Why did they deny you ESTA?
I don't know as they won't tell. And I also don't know why they can't respond to my visa application.
Allegedly, yes. I'm sure that person must be working very hard...
No. I have been in contact with many people who have been in similar situations such as this, as well as many people who have applied for visas for very complicated matters, and it is basically unheard of that it would take this long time and still end up with a positive response in the end.
Someone emailed me and explained how they got their visa approved after 10 months waiting - so it obviously can happen after a fairly long time!
Yes, I have visted the US around a dozen times over a time period of almost twenty years. I have applied and gotten ESTA permissions several times. I have many friends living and working in the US.
My latest visit to the US was in December 2016 - using the same ESTA and passport I subsequently wanted to use in the summer of 2017 when I was first denied travelling to the US.
I have been invited personally to several meetings in the US that I couldn't attend. (excluding IETF, HTTPbis or QUIC meetings)
- San Francisco June 2017. Mozilla All Hands.
- San Francisco June 2018. Mozilla All hands.
- San Francisco October 2018. Conference speaking engagement.
- Orlando, Florida December 2018. Mozilla All hands.
- Portland, Oregon January 2019. Conference speaking engagement.
- California, March 2019. Conference speaking engagement.
- Summer of 2019. Wedding.
We've already tried all available ways to get information or otherwise bring this effort forward. To no avail.
Yes. Several of the coming All hands are now planned and scheduled to happen outside of the US, for example in Canada and Germany. But I will not be there to experience them since I quit Mozilla in December 2018.
Will your visa situation change when you've quit Mozilla?
Unfortunately, there is no reason to suspect or hope so.
I emailed them in July 2019 just to make sure they just hadn't forgot about my case or similar over the past year, and I received their reply on August 1st 2019. The response said "I have forwarded your email to my supervisor to highlight the problem." - but then nothing more came.
I emailed them again on January 28, 2020.
They responded very politely:
Dear Sir, All applications are processed in the most expeditious manner possible. While we understand your frustration, we are required to follow immigration law regarding visa issuances. This process cannot be expedited or circumvented. Rest assured that we will contact you as soon as the administrative processing is concluded.
I think one of the likelier explantions is that someone somewhere has found my name and my code used in some evil or malicious manner and drawn the wrong conclusions about how my code ended up there or how I could've been involved. Like for example in some malware, virus or other attack software. I make tools and code available for free and openly and sometimes those are unfortunately used in ways I don't condone.
Since they won't tell me why, basically all theories are equally likely. We just won't know.
Any other plausible explanations?
People have mentioned my domain name haxx.se or suggested it is because I have referred to myself as "a hacker" at times. I find that unlikely since I used the domain and used the term for decades before this.
Others have offered the explanation that the immigration authorities might've decided that I violated the ESTA rules in a previous visit. I can of course not know what they think, but I have not violated those rules.
- excluding a specific user would make a license to not be open source anymore
- curl has many more copyrights than mine, it would be hard
- curl is bigger than me personally, I wouldn't do it anyway
Dear Representative Gerry Connolly: Could you please help my friend Daniel Stenberg *finally* gain permission to travel to the US? He has been denied permission to travel to the US for years, yet there is no cause for it. On June 26, 2017, Mr. Stenberg was denied to travel to the US, even though he had a valid ESTA and passport. He was then denied ESTA on April 3, 2018. He then applied for a visa in April 2018, and has *still* not heard anything. This is especially galling because is a widely-known leader in the computer community. He developed and maintains the "curl" program, a program used worldwide by many software developers and computer system administrators. In October 2017 he won the "Polhem prize" for his work on curl; in that ceremony the Swedish king personally handed Daniel a gold medal. In February 2019 he joined wolfSSL, an American company (he's their only Swedish hire), and yet he's still not allowed to travel to the US. Perhaps there is a confusion about the word "hacker". In the computer community, a "hacker" is NOT someone who breaks into computers, a hacker is "a person who delights in having an intimate understanding of the internal workings of a system, computers and computer networks in particular." ( IETF RFC 1983, https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1983). Mr. Stenberg does *not* break into computers without authorization. At the least, the State Department should have asked questions instead of reflexively denying entry to a world leader in the computer industry. More information is available on his personal website: https://daniel.haxx.se/us-visa.html https://daniel.haxx.se/about.html Thank you very much! --- [name redacted]
Subsequently, this congressman's office queried the US embassy in Stockholm about the case and on September 17, 2020 (884 days since the interview) the US embassy responded. Here's the relevant part of the answer:
On your behalf, my office contacted the Embassy and asked the agency to provide any information that might be helpful to you. The agency has responded to this inquiry stating that your case is currently undergoing necessary administrative processing and that regrettably it is not possible to predict when this processing will be completed. The Embassy has assured my office that you will be contacted directly once a decision is rendered or if any additional information is needed.
Let me repeat: undergoing necessary administrative processing
This is what the online visa application status site showed for my case on July 30, 2019:
This is what an ESTA rejection looks like: