Joel Åsblom works as a “technical writer” at the Swedish “IT magazine” consortium IDG. He got assigned the job of interviewing Richard M Stallman when he was still in Stockholm after his talk at the foss-sthlm event. I had been mailing with another IDG guy (Sverker Brundin) on and off for weeks before this day to try to coordinate a time and place for this interview.
During this time, I forwarded the “usual” requests from RMS himself about how the writer should read up on the facts, the background and history behind Free Software, the GNU project and more. The recommended reading includes a lot of good info. My contact assured me that they knew this stuff and that they had interviewed mr Stallman before.
This November day after the talk done in Stockholm, Roger Sinel had volunteered to drive Richard around with his car to show him around the city and therefore he was also present in the IDG offices when Joel interviewed RMS. Roger recorded the entire interview on his phone. I’ve listened to the complete interview. You can do it as well: Part one as mp3 and ogg, and part 2 as mp3 and ogg. Roughly an hour playback time all together.
The day after the interview, Joel posted a blog entry on the computersweden.se blog (in Swedish) which not only showed disrespect towards his interviewee, but also proved that Joel has not understood very many words of Stallman’s view or perhaps he misread them on purpose. Joel’s blog post translated to English:
Yesterday I got an exclusive interview with legend Richard Stallman, who in the mid 80’s, published his GNU Manifesto on thoughts of a free operating system that would be compatible with Unix. Since then he has traveled the world with his insistent message that it is a crime against humanity to charge for the program.
As the choleric personality he is, I got the interview once I’ve made a sacred promise to never (at least in this interview) write only Linux but also add Gnu before each reference to this operating system. He thinks that his beloved GNU (a recursive acronym for GNU is Not Unix) is the basis of Linux in 1991 and thus should be mentioned in the same breath.
Another strange thing is that this man who KTH and a whole lot of other colleges have appointed an honorary doctorate has such a difficulty to understand the realities of the labor market. During the interview, I take notes on a computer running Windows, which makes him get really upset. He would certainly never condescend to work in an office where he could not run a computer that contains nothing but free software. I try to explain to him that the vast majority of office slaves depend on quite a few programs that are linked to mission-critical systems that are only available for Windows. No, Stallman insists that we must dare to stand up for our rights and not let ourselves be guided by others.
Again and again he returns to the subject that software licensing is a crime against humanity and completely ignores the argument that someone who has done a great job on designing programs also should be able to live from this.
The question then is whether the man is drugged. Yes, I actually asked if he (as suggested in some places) uses marijuana. This is because he has propagated for the drug to be allowed to get used in war veteran wellness programs. The answer is that he certainly think that cannabis should be legalized, but that he has stopped using the drug.
He confuses freedom with price – RMS never refuses anyone the right to charge for programs. Joel belittles the importance of GNU in a modern Linux system. He calls him “choleric”. He claims you cannot earn money on Free Software (maybe he needs to talk to some of the Linux kernel hackers) and he seems to think that Windows is crucial to office workers. Software licenses a crime against humanity? From the person who has authored several very widely used software licenses?
The final part about the drugs is just plain rude.
During the interview, Joel mentions several times that he is using Ubuntu at home (and Stallman explains that it is one of the non-free GNU/Linux systems). It is an excellent proof that just because someone is using a Linux-based OS, they don’t have to know one iota or care the slightest about some of the values and ethics that lie behind its creation.
In the end it leaves you wondering if Joel wrote this crap deliberately or just out of ignorance. It is hard to see that you actually can miss the point to this extent. It is just another proof what kind of business IDG is.
Ok, so I felt betrayed and badly treated by IDG as I had helped them get this interview. I emailed Sverker and Joel with my complaints and I pointed out the range of errors and faults in this “blogpost”. I know others did too, and RMS himself of course wasn’t too thrilled with seeing yet another article with someone completely missing the point and putting words into his mouth that he never said and that he doesn’t stand for.
During the weekend I discussed this at FSCONS with friends and there were a lot of head-shakes, sighs and rolling eyes.
The two writers both responded to my harsh criticisms and brushed it off, claiming you can have different views on free vs gratis and so on, and both said something in the style “but wait for the real article”. Ok, so I held off this blog post until the “real article”.
The real article
Stallman – geni och kolerisk agitator, which then is supposedly the real article, was posted on November 15th. It basically changed nothing at all. The same flaws are there – none of the complaint mails and friendly efforts to help them straighten out the facts had any effect. I would say the most fundamental flaws ones are:
With opinions that it is a crime against humanity to charge for software Richard Stallman has made many enemies at home. In South America, he hasÂ more friends, some of which are presidents whom he persuaded to join the road to free source code.
Joel claims RMS says you can’t charge for software. The truth is that he repeatedly and with emphasis says that free software means free as in freedom, it does not necessarily means gratis. Listen to the interview, he said this clearly this time as well. And he says so every time he does a public talk.
Richard Stallman is also the founder of the Free Software Foundation, and his big show-piece is the fight against everything regarding software licenses.
Joel claims he has a “fight against everything regarding software licenses”. That’s so stupid I don’t know where to begin. The article itself even has a little box next to it describing how RMS wrote the GPL license etc. RMS is behind some of the most used software licenses in the world.
The fact that Joel tries to infer that Free Software is mostly a deal in South America is just a proof that this magazine (and writer) has no idea about for example the impact of Linux and GNU/Linux in just about all software areas except desktops.
All this serves just as a proof and a warning: please friends, approach this behemoth known as IDG with utmost care and be sure that they will not understand what you’re talking about if you’re not into their mainstream territory. They deliberately will write crap about you, even after having been told about errors and mistakes. Out of spite or just plain stupidity, I’m not sure.
[I deliberately chose not to include the full article translated to English here since it is mostly repetition.]
8 thoughts on “IDG prints lies about RMS”
IDG has long since resorted to emulate the tabloids as much as humanly possible, in order to drive clicks. Trolling, if you will.
The sad thing about it is that it probably works. They’ll get a long thread about this in their commentary forum and lots of banner ad impressions.
But perhaps someone could remind this particular journalist about this thing called “the web”. It’s mainly running on free software and ironically also is the platform which indirectly pays his salary.
Sorry to hear that you donâ€™t like the story. Weâ€™ve made a few clarifications in our story and blog post at computersweden.se/teknikbloggen after some of the opinions that weâ€™ve received.
During the interview Stallman made it clear that he is against software patents and everything else that doesnâ€™t give full freedom to the user. Itâ€™s especially important to him that the source code is freely available.
If what we’ve written has been perceived in an another way, that is unfortunate. We donâ€™t have a position of our own in this matter – the article on Stallman is only meant to communicate our impressions from the
Just to clarify, we also posted a brief follow-up on our blog:
All the best,
Sverker Brundin, technical editor, Computer Sweden
Thanks for your response. Your updated versions of both posts are indeed much better.
You basically replaced his fight against “charging for software” to instead say he’s against “software patents”. Much better. I can’t speak for anyone else, but I would claim that RMS primarily fights for and works for free software rather than against software patents even if he does that as well.
I consider this a small win.
Joel’s follow-up posts says that RMS triggers upset feelings. He might do, but in this case it wasn’t he who did it. I and my fellow Free Software enthusiasts got upset due to your errors and stubborn refusals to correct the mistakes you did.
Hopefully RMS files suit against IDG in USA, a couple of hundred million dollars for slander et.al should do RMS nicely and ensure that IDG.se shuts down permanently.
Assuming your translation is accurate Daniel, and since I know you well, I have no reason to doubt it, then it’s pretty plain the interviewer has absolutely no clue what free software is at all. Anyone lacking that knowledge I would argue has no right to call themselves a technical journalist at all – and is certainly not fit to interview RMS.
I admit that I myself find RMS’s views extreme – but I can at least express them clearly to others without actually making things up. And to accuse the man of being high in an interview is utterly unacceptable.
Finally it’s also plain the interviewer has no idea about the amount of free software running the internet he relies on. Perhaps GNU/Linux doesn’t have the desktop penetration that RMS would like – but it’s penetrated a majority of the web’s servers, switches and routers. Did this guy do *any* homework at all, or was *he* high when he should have been doing his research?
I’m also with Bryan when I admit finding RMS sometimes a bit too over the top with his views, but he’s got the right idea that you should be able to use your computer as *you* see fit, and that you deserve freedom to use that computer as you wish. If wanting to see what makes the whole OS tick, then feel free to delve into the source code. Found a bug? Bully to you!
While I also do admit that perhaps if RMS cleaned up his act, even if just a bit (e.g. perhaps fixed his beard and hair a little), people would probably take him a little more seriously. Linus Torvalds once mentioned that he keeps his image clean and well kept because it’s not just for him, but for others to see that he can be taken seriously. RMS is certainly fighting a good fight, but maybe a little peek over at Linus or someone like Miguel de Icaza (also pretty well kempt) and thinking, “Well, the image works for them… maybe if I mix that in with my message…” might help move mountains even further.
For Gods sake. Just stop reading/interacting with IDG completely, I did a long time ago. They are simply the Se&HÃ¶r of IT.
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