Vodafone UK has taken it on themselves to make the world better by marking this website (
daniel.haxx.se) “adult content”. I suppose in order to protect the children.
It was first reported to me on May 2, with this screenshot from a Vodafone customer:
And later followed up with some more details from another user in this screenshot
Customers can opt out of this “protection” and then apparently Vodafone will no longer block my site.
I was graciously given more logs (my copy) showing DNS resolves and curl command line invokes.
It shows that this filter is for this specific host name only, not for the entire haxx.se domain.
It also shows that the DNS resolves are unaffected as they returned the expected Fastly IP addresses just fine. I suspect they have equipment that inspects outgoing traffic that catches this TLS connection based on the SNI field.
As the log shows, they then make their server do a TLS handshake in which they respond with a certificate that has
daniel.haxx.se in the CN field.
The curl verbose output shows this:
* SSL connection using TLSv1.2 / ECDHE-ECDSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 * ALPN, server did not agree to a protocol * Server certificate: * subject: CN=daniel.haxx.se * start date: Dec 16 13:07:49 2016 GMT * expire date: Dec 16 13:07:49 2026 GMT * issuer: C=ES; ST=Madrid; L=Madrid; O=Allot; OU=Allot; CN=allot.com/emailAddressfirstname.lastname@example.org * SSL certificate verify result: self signed certificate in certificate chain (19), continuing anyway. > HEAD / HTTP/1.1 > Host: daniel.haxx.se > User-Agent: curl/7.79.1 > Accept: */* >
The allot.com clue is the technology they use for this filtering. To quote their website, you can “protect citizens” with it.
I am not unique, clearly this has also hit other website owners. I have no idea if there is any way to appeal against this classification or something, but if you are a Vodafone UK customer, I would be happy if you did and maybe linked me to a public issue about it.
I was pointed to the page where you can request to unblock specific sites so I have done that now (at 12:00 May 2).
Update on May 3
My unblock request for
daniel.haxx.se is apparently “on hold” according to the web site.
I got an email from an anonymous (self-proclaimed) insider who says he works at Allot, the company doing this filtering for Vodafone. In this email, he says
Most likely, Vodafone is using their parental control a threat protection module which works based on a DNS resolving.
After the business logic decides to block the website, it tells the DNS server to reply with a custom IP to a server that always shows a block page, because how HTTPS works, there is no way to trick it, either with Self-signed certificate, or using a signed certificate for a different domain, hence the warning.
What is weird here is that this explanation does not quite match what I have seen the logs provided to me. They showed this filtering clearly not being DNS based – since the DNS resolves got the exact same IP address a non-filtered resolver does.
Someone on Vodafone UK could of course easily test this by simply using a different DNS server, like 18.104.22.168 or 22.214.171.124.
Discussed on hacker news.
12 thoughts on “Considered “18+””
Long ago I used vodafone but really, they seemed to block random things as “18+” with no discernible excuse. Once I was away from home and trying to look up a nearby restaurant, but that was blocked. Children better be used to starve I guess.
That’s probably because the restaurant advertises alcohol prominently enough or frequently enough for their software to get triggered as classifying it 18+.
Probably tripped some regexp rule about consecutive x’s equating to => “xxx”, etc.
If that would have been the case, then other hosts under the same domain would’ve been blocked too, and they aren’t…
I wouldn’t be surprised if some parts of your domain were whitelisted. After all, the unlucky admins forced to deal with this atrocity probably used curl to test it.
Would a CAA record for the domain help in this case, or does it rely on CAs respecting the value?
I don’t know what effect they have and how much they are respected, but I would imagine that they shouldn’t hurt and *might* help…
In this case it doesn’t seem to be necessary since this filter is using a CA that nobody trusts anyway.
Or it may be because curl allows to forge really dirty HTTP requests 🙂
Looking at the block page it redirects to, it contains “CAT=[hackers|computing]” in the query params.
Do they just block all ‘hacker’ blogs? Oh dear…
So are they fraudulently claiming to be you with that certificate?
Yes, they try to “impersonate” my site with that MITM thing. Presumably to show an error/blocked message. It fails of course because the certificate is signed by a CA that most browsers won’t trust.
Vodafone have some pretty iffy practices all round
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