Tag Archives: cURL and libcurl

picturing curl’s future

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There will be more stuff over time in the cURL project. Exactly which stuff and how long time it takes for everything, we don’t know. It depends largely on who works on what and how much time said persons can spend on implementing the stuff they work on…

I suspect we might be able to do things slightly faster over time, which is why the red arrow isn’t just a straight line.

I drew this little picture inspired from discussions with friends after a talk I did about curl and how development works in an open source project such as this. We know we will work on things that will improve the products but we don’t see exactly what very far in advance. I tweeted this picture a few days ago, and it turned out very popular.

2015 curl user poll analysis

My full 30 page document with all details and analyses of the curl user poll 2015 is now available. It shows details of all the questions, most of them with a comparison with last year’s survey. The write-ins are also full of good advice, wisdom and some signs of ignorance or unawareness.

I hope all curl hackers and others generally interested in the project can use my “report” to learn something about our users and our user’s view of the project and our products.

Let’s use this to guide us going forward.

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status update: http2 multiplexed uploads

I wrote a previous update about my work on multiplexing in curl. This is a follow-up to describe the status as of today.

I’ve successfully used the http2-upload.c code to upload 600 parallel streams to the test server and they were all sent off fine and the responses received were stored fine. MAX_CONCURRENT_STREAMS on the server was set to 100.

This is using curl git master as of right now (thus scheduled for inclusion in the pending curl 7.43.0 release).  I’m not celebrating just yet, but it is looking pretty good. I’ll continue testing.

Commit b0143a2a3 was crucial for this, as I realized we didn’t store and use the read callback in the easy handle but in the connection struct which is completely wrong when many easy handles are using the same connection! I don’t recall the exact reason why I put the data in that struct (I went back and read the commit messages etc) but I think this setup is correct conceptually and code-wise, so if this leads to some side-effects I think we need to just fix it.

Next up: more testing, and then taking on the concept of server push to make libcurl able to support it. It will certainly be a subject for future blog posts…

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curl user poll 2015

Update: the poll is now closed. The responses can be found here.

Now is the time. If you use curl or libcurl from time to time, please consider helping us out with providing your feedback and opinions on a few things:

https://goo.gl/FyToBn

It’ll take you a couple of minutes and it’ll help us a lot when making decisions going forward.

The poll is hosted by Google and that short link above will take you to:

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1uQNYfTmRwF9RX5-oq_HV4VyeT1j7cxXpuBIp8uy5nqQ/viewform

HTTP/2 in curl, status update

http2 logoI’m right now working on adding proper multiplexing to libcurl’s HTTP/2 code. So far we’ve only done a single stream per connection and while that works fine and is HTTP/2, applications will still want more when switching to HTTP/2 as the multiplexing part is one of the key components and selling features of the new protocol version.

Pipelining means multiplexed

As a starting point, I’m using the “enable HTTP pipelining” switch to tell libcurl it should consider multiplexing. It makes libcurl work as before by default. If you use the multi interface and enable pipelining, libcurl will try to re-use established connections and just add streams over them rather than creating new connections. Yes this means that A) you need to use the multi interface to get the full HTTP/2 stuff and B) the curl tool won’t be able to take advantage of it since it doesn’t use the multi interface! (An old outstanding idea is to move the tool to use the multi interface and this would yet another reason why this could be a good idea.)

We still have some decisions to make about how we want libcurl to act by default – especially when we can expect application to use both HTTP/1.1 and HTTP/2 at the same time. Since we don’t know if the server supports HTTP/2 until after a certain point in the negotiation, we need to decide on how to do when we issue N transfers at once to the same server that might speak HTTP/2… Right now, we get the best HTTP/2 behavior by telling libcurl we only want one connection per host but that is probably not ideal for an application that might use a mix of HTTP/1.1 and HTTP/2 servers.

Downsides with abusing pipelining

There are some drawbacks with using that pipelining switch to allow multiplexing since users may very well want HTTP/2 multiplexing but not HTTP/1.1 pipelining since the latter is just riddled with interop problems.

Also, re-using the same options for limited connections to host names etc for both HTTP/1.1 and HTTP/2 may not at all be what real-world applications want or need.

One easy handle, one stream

libcurl API wise, each HTTP/2 stream is its own easy handle. It makes it simple and keeps the API paradigm very much in the same way it works for all the other protocols. It comes very natural for the libcurl application author. If you setup three easy handles, all identifying a resource on the same server and you tell libcurl to use HTTP/2, it makes perfect sense that all these three transfers are made using a single connection.

As multiplexed data means that when reading from the socket, there is data arriving that belongs to other streams than just a single one. So we need to feed the received data into the different “data buckets” for the involved streams. It gives us a little internal challenge: we get easy handles with no socket activity to trigger a read, but there is data to take care of in the incoming buffer. I’ve solved this so far with a special trigger that says that there is data to take care of, that it should make a read anyway that then will get the data from the buffer.

Server push

HTTP/2 supports server push. That’s a stream that gets initiated from the server side without the client specifically asking for it. A resource the server deems likely that the client wants since it asked for a related resource, or similar. My idea is to support server push with the application setting up a transfer with an easy handle and associated options, but the URL would only identify the server so that it knows on which connection it would accept a push, and we will introduce a new option to libcurl that would tell it that this is an easy handle that should be used for the next server pushed stream on this connection.

Of course there are a few outstanding issues with this idea. Possibly we should allow an easy handle to get created when a new stream shows up so that we can better deal with a dynamic number of  new streams being pushed.

It’d be great to hear from users who have ideas on how to use server push in a real-world application and how you’d imagine it could be used with libcurl.

Work in progress code

My work in progress code for this drive can be found in two places.

First, I do the libcurl multiplexing development in the separate http2-multiplex branch in the regular curl repo:

https://github.com/bagder/curl/tree/http2-multiplex.

Then, I put all my test setup and test client work in a separate repository just in case you want to keep up and reproduce my testing and experiments:

https://github.com/bagder/curl-http2-dev

Feedback?

All comments, questions, praise or complaints you may have on this are best sent to the curl-library mailing list. If you are planning on doing a HTTP/2 capable applications or otherwise have thoughts or ideas about the API for this, please join in and tell me what you think. It is much better to get the discussions going early and work on different design ideas now before anything is set in stone rather than waiting for us to ship something semi-stable as the closer to an actual release we get, the harder it’ll be to change the API.

Not quite working yet

As I write this, I’m repeatedly doing 99 parallel HTTP/2 streams with no data corruption… But there’s a lot more to be done before I’ll call it a victory.

talking curl on the changelog

The changelog is the name of a weekly podcast on which the hosts discuss open source and stuff.

Last Friday I was invited to participate and I joined hosts Adam and Jerod for an hour long episode about curl. It all started as a response to my post on curl 17 years, so we really got into how things started out and how curl has developed through the years, how much time I’ve spent on it and if I could mention a really great moment in time that stood out over the years?

They day before, they released the little separate teaser we made about about the little known –remote-name-all command line option that basically makes curl default to do -O on all given URLs.

The full length episode can be experienced in all its glory here: https://changelog.com/153/

curl: embracing github more

Pull requests and issues filed on github are most welcome!

The curl project has been around for a long time by now and we’ve been through several different version control systems. The most recent switch was when we switched to git from CVS back in 2010. We were late switchers but then we’re conservative in several regards.

When we switched to git we also switched to github for the hosting, after having been self-hosted for many years before that. By using github we got a lot of services, goodies and reliable hosting at no cost. We’ve been enjoying that ever since.

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However, as we have been a traditional mailing list driving project for a long time, I have previously not properly embraced and appreciated pull requests and issues filed at github since they don’t really follow the old model very good.

Just very recently I decided to stop fighting those methods and instead go with them. A quick poll among my fellow team mates showed no strong opposition and we are now instead going full force ahead in a more github embracing style. I hope that this will lower the barrier and remove friction for newcomers and allow more people to contribute easier.

As an effect of this, I would also like to encourage each and everyone who is interested in this project as a user of libcurl or as a contributor to and hacker of libcurl, to skip over to the curl github home and press the ‘watch’ button to get notified when future requests and issues appear.

We also offer this helpful guide on how to contribute to the curl project!

curl, smiley-URLs and libc

Some interesting Unicode URLs have recently been seen used in the wild – like in this billboard ad campaign from Coca Cola, and a friend of mine asked me about curl in reference to these and how it deals with such URLs.

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(Picture by stevencoleuk)

I ran some tests and decided to blog my observations since they are a bit curious. The exact URL I tried was ‘www.O.ws’ (not the same smiley as shown on this billboard – note that I’ve replace the actual smiley with “O” in this entire post since wordpress craps on it) – it is really hard to enter by hand so now is the time to appreciate your ability to cut and paste! It appears they registered several domains for a set of different smileys.

These smileys are not really allowed IDN (where IDN means International Domain Names) symbols which make these domains a bit different. They should not (see below for details) be converted to punycode before getting resolved but instead I assume that the pure UTF-8 sequence should or at least will be fed into the name resolver function. Well, either way it should either pass in punycode or the UTF-8 string.

If curl was built to use libidn, it still won’t convert this to punycode and the verbose output says “Failed to convert www.O.ws to ACE; String preparation failed

curl (exact version doesn’t matter) using the stock threaded resolver

  • Debian Linux (glibc 2.19) – FAIL
  • Windows 7 – FAIL
  • Mac OS X 10.9 – SUCCESS

But then also perhaps to no surprise, the exact same results are shown if I try to ping those host names on these systems. It works on the mac, it fails on Linux and Windows. Wget 1.16 also fails on my Debian systems (just as a reference and I didn’t try it on any of the other platforms).

My curl build on Linux that uses c-ares for name resolving instead of glibc succeeds perfectly. host, nslookup and dig all work fine with it on Linux too (as well as nslookup on Windows):

$ host www.O.ws
www.O.ws has address 64.70.19.202
$ ping www.O.ws
ping: unknown host www.O.ws

While the same command sequence on the mac shows:

$ host www.O.ws
www.O.ws has address 64.70.19.202
$ ping www.O.ws
PING www.O.ws (64.70.19.202): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 64.70.19.202: icmp_seq=0 ttl=44 time=191.689 ms
64 bytes from 64.70.19.202: icmp_seq=1 ttl=44 time=191.124 ms

Slightly interesting additional tidbit: if I rebuild curl to use gethostbyname_r() instead of getaddrinfo() it works just like on the mac, so clearly this is glibc having an opinion on how this should work when given this UTF-8 hostname.

Pasting in the URL into Firefox and Chrome works just fine. They both convert the name to punycode and use “www.xn--h28h.ws” which then resolves to the same IPv4 address.

Update: as was pointed out in a comment below, the “64.70.19.202” IP address is not the correct IP for the site. It is just the registrar’s landing page so it sends back that response to any host or domain name in the .ws domain that doesn’t exist!

What do the IDN specs say?

The U-263A smileyThis is not my area of expertise. I had to consult Patrik Fältström here to get this straightened out (but please if I got something wrong here the mistake is still all mine). Apparently this smiley is allowed in RFC 3940 (IDNA2003), but that has been replaced by RFC 5890-5892 (IDNA2008) where this is DISALLOWED. If you read the spec, this is 263A.

So, depending on which spec you follow it was a valid IDN character or it isn’t anymore.

What does the libc docs say?

The POSIX docs for getaddrinfo doesn’t contain enough info to tell who’s right but it doesn’t forbid UTF-8 encoded strings. The regular glibc docs for getaddrinfo also doesn’t say anything and interestingly, the Apple Mac OS X version of the docs says just as little.

With this complete lack of guidance, it is hardly any additional surprise that the glibc gethostbyname docs also doesn’t mention what it does in this case but clearly it doesn’t do the same as getaddrinfo in the glibc case at least.

What’s on the actual site?

A redirect to www.emoticoke.com which shows a rather boring page.

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Who’s right?

I don’t know. What do you think?